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    20 days ago

    Semantics. A podcast is and was something that was typically long format akin to a talk show - that was something that could be listened to without requiring you to watch it. It is not audio exclusive. Many radio shows may and do have video feeds but that does not prevent them from being called radio shows.

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      20 days ago

      Many radio shows may and do have video feeds but that does not prevent them from being called radio shows.

      Nor does it prevent it from being a podcast. What prevents it being a podcast is not being distributed as a podcast…

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        20 days ago

        Again semantics. You are attempting to split hairs based on distribution opposed to type. This is like being a pedant over someone referring to tissues as a Kleenex despite it not being that particular brand. Podcasts were ambiguous back when they were still new, too.

        Shoutcast servers were/hosted digital broadcasts. Podcasts were containerized (aka offline) recordings of these. You could argue that calling a live show a podcast is technically incorrect: but thanks to language continuing to adapt to its environment… You’d actually just be out of date or misinformed.

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          19 days ago

          You are attempting to split hairs based on distribution

          This is not just semantics or “splitting hairs” or pedantic. How it’s distributed is a fundamental property of what a podcast is.

          If it’s not, maybe you can tell me what a podcast is, and how it’s different from a YouTube video?

          You could argue that calling a live show a podcast is technically incorrect:

          …why would I do that?

          but thanks to language continuing to adapt to its environment…

          This is not “language adaptation”, this is a complete erosion of the meaning of the word.

          We have words for videos, they’re called “videos”, which are fundamentally different from a “podcast”.

          Podcasts were containerized (aka offline) recordings of these.

          Podcast are not necessarily offline. You can stream them.

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            19 days ago

            If it’s not, maybe you can tell me what a podcast is, and how it’s different from a YouTube video?

            If I can listen to the YouTube video without needing it for visual aid… that’s just it: they’re the same thing. This wraps nicely into the video podcast thing you were whinging about earlier.

            …why would I do that?

            Considering your stance on this topic… why wouldn’t you? It’d be on brand.

            This is not “language adaptation”, this is a complete erosion of the meaning of the word.

            I really was hoping you’d say this. Semantics. Again. Language isn’t some dead unchanging thing. It morphs and adjusts with culture and technological changes.

            By your logic you must surely lament the death of ancient ‘proper’ English circa 5th century before all those awful changes came about.

            We have words for videos, they’re called “videos”, which are fundamentally different from a “podcast”.

            Synonyms exist. Whether or not you choose to acknowledge them might be your business… however the fact you understood the medium being spoken about suggests quite plainly that language has succeeded here.

            Podcast are not necessarily offline. You can stream them.

            Ah, but initially - one name was for a live stream and the other for a recording. Streaming is ambiguous: are you streaming live or a recording? Thankfully: we do not make such a differentiation any more. I find it somewhat interesting your stance allows for such a difference to be ignored, though. Perhaps, given time, you will moderate on the remainder of this terminology. After all it’s a rather silly hill to die upon.

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              19 days ago

              that’s just it: they’re the same thing

              A youtube video and a podcast are the same thing…? This is the logic you want to go with? At this point I think it’s pretty clear you’re being irrational and I cannot reason you out of a position you didn’t reason yourself into. Have a nice day.

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                19 days ago

                Your response is a common one I have seen time and again when they are trying to bow out while saving face. It’s not subtle.

                Simple question: can you listen to music on YouTube? Followup question: is it still a video if the content is only the song? What would you call it?

                I sincerely hope you learned something today and will be less of a pedant online. Cheers.

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            18 days ago

            So if YouTube provided an RSS feed for its channels, all videos would be podcasts because they can be processed as audio-only and are distributed via RSS?

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              18 days ago

              Yes. They provide that option already. However, this particular channel was not distributed that way.