• kinkles@sh.itjust.works
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    3 months ago

    That’s a very subjective take. My friends and family that live in hot climates love the ability to remotely turn on and pre-cool their vehicles. I appreciate being able to check if I remembered to lock the doors.

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      3 months ago

      Both of those functions have been available via key fob for at least a decade, no internet required. Though yes the range on that can be limited.

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        3 months ago

        Thats precisely what I’m referring to- these things being possible when you’re inside of a store, restaurant, or an extreme case like you parked at the airport for a trip.

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        3 months ago

        I appreciate being able to check if I remembered to lock the doors.

        How exactly does that work with a keyfob…?

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          3 months ago

          There are “two-way” remote start kits that have a display on the fob to report back AC state, engine remaining run time, and door lock state. It also helps for making sure the button you pressed actually reached the car.

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      And by using that internet connected feature you’re 100% handing out your driving info to your car manufacturer, who in turn will sell it to LexisNexis, who in turn will sell it to insurance companies, who in turn will jack up your insurance prices.

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        3 months ago

        Sure, that sucks. But I’m not saying there are zero downsides, I’m specifically countering the argument that there are “no good reasons” with my personal good reasons.

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          3 months ago

          it really depends whether that counts as a good reason. for us the downsides highly outweigh the upsides.
          and yes, I know what it’s like to sit in a hot car when I just got back to it on the hot summer day. but I can really wait 2 minutes outside the car when it’s that bad

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            3 months ago

            Man, I’ll never understand this “car is too hot for me to sit in” to be honest. Lmao. Sounds to me like people are too spoiled and this is something kids say. Come one, you really think of this is as an issue? I don’t even have an ac in my car. It broke over 4 years ago and I never fixed it. But for each their own I guess.

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              Man, I’ll never understand this “car is too hot for me to sit in” to be honest.

              Probably because you don’t live in a hot climate?

              The interior of a car here can get up to 150 degrees. And the bits and bobs inside can get even hotter. I’ve gotten second degree burns from the seatbelt.

              Now imagine you’re out exercising for 3 hours in 107 degree heat. Or working for 6-8 hours in it. Getting in that car might literally kill you.

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                3 months ago

                LOL. I don’t live in a hot climate? How about the middle east? Does that sound hot enough? I grew up living in a tent. A literal tent until I was about 20, then my father decided to build a house. Then that house had no power until 2008. And our weather there can get to 130+ easily. So, imagine that heat. Imagine how getting into a car would feel. Here is a photo I took of a thermometer I took in June of 2009. It was around 1 pm. I was on a military base that day. It won’t kill you, you will be fine. Open your windows and wait outside a little so you don’t melt. lol

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              3 months ago

              it was a fucking example, man. but there are places where if you left the car in the direct sun on the summer, a few hours later it will have 40-45 °C or so in there.

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      3 months ago

      As I said in my comment, that can be done with the key, no Internet connection needed.

      As for the lock thing, I just need to look if my mirrors are folded in or not.

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        3 months ago

        The fob won’t work if you’re deep inside a store, will it? Same for checking the mirrors.

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          3 months ago

          A) you can survive without precooling or set it to start before getting deep into the store.

          B)if you want that feature fine, but leave it off everyone else’s car! No cell connections should be installed by default like this. It’s a walking cve list waiting to happen.