Reddit is taking control of large subreddits that are still protesting its API changes::undefined

  • Jordan Lund@lemmy.one
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    1 year ago

    If you want your mods to do what you want… PAY THEM.

    “OMG! These people who somehow got in control won’t do what we want??!?!?”

    Yeah, they don’t work for you, they NEVER DID. You, profiting of people who have no obligation to you is a huge problem.

  • driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br
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    1 year ago

    One of my fav subreddits is still private, and I’m sure the admins didn’t even knew about. r/CheatAtMathHomework, you help me during college, never judge from my stupid questions or tried to give me ‘clues’ to solve it by myself (shout out to r/learnmath that was for that), straightforward answers to check if I was correct was what I wanted and what you provided. Never forget what they took from us.

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    I doubt these protests will change Reddit management’s mind on things, what did these protests change so far? AFAIK nothing, the best thing to do is to migrate to an alternative platform and delete your account and recommend the subscribers to do the same while keeping the subreddit private

    Nothing will be as effective as deleting your account and migrating to an alternative platform.

    • tcj@lemmy.world
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      1 year ago

      what did these protests change so far?

      They pushed people to other platforms.

    • matlag@sh.itjust.works
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      1 year ago

      For many “lurkers” of reddit, the protest brought some attention to the issue and reddit’s disdain for the moderators.

      I think it helps with the migration if the communities are not taken by surprise when a mod declares a migration.

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    1 year ago

    What did they really think was going to happen?

    They’re going to kick and ban people who are trying to hijack the company. That should be a given, because it makes sense.

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      What did they really think was going to happen?

      I think what they thought would happen was that reddit would relize they have inadvertantly united users, subreddit mods, and 3rd party developrs (many of which are ironically from subreddits that ordinarily despise each other) into a common cause against reddit…and that reddit would reconsider their actions and find a way not to murder 3rd party apps.

        • graphite@lemmy.world
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          1 year ago

          How is closing subreddits in protest not basically trying to take control of the situation?

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            1 year ago

            The subreddits are created, moderated, populated, and maintained by volunteers. The company’s model is fundamentally not under their own control, which is a knife that cuts both ways. Calling it a hijacking when it was never under anyone else’s control is not just wrong, it’s actually entirely backwards. Reddit is the one hijacking the subreddits.

            • graphite@lemmy.world
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              The company’s model is fundamentally not under their own control, which is a knife that cuts both ways.

              That’s like saying Facebook’s model is not fundamentally under its own control. The same with Twitter, or any other social media.

              Calling it a hijacking when it was never under anyone else’s control is not just wrong, it’s actually entirely backwards. Reddit is the one hijacking the subreddits.

              Reddit owns the servers which host the subreddits.

              Preventing users from accessing your subreddit, as a moderater (who is also not an employee of the company), as a form of protest, is a means of trying to control the website’s overall behavior.

              So, yes, it is a high jacking attempt. Not an effective one, but one nonetheless.

              • eric@lemmy.world
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                Giant subs have shut down before, yet Reddit never reopened them prior to June 2023. It was the coordinated action across subs that Reddit saw as a threat, not the act of closing a sub (which had never been against the rules and still isn’t). Reddit saw the protest as hijacking in the same way that other companies feel that the workers are hijacking the company when they try to unionize or strike. Only difference here is that the workers for this company are volunteers rather than paid employees.

                Sure, reddit’s a private company, so they can mostly do whatever they want, but that doesn’t change the fact that these actions are unprecedented and a huge betrayal of trust, and there’s nothing wrong with people (especially those that invested a lot of time and effort into building the site into what it is today) being upset at reddit for this.

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                  but that doesn’t change the fact that these actions are unprecedented and a huge betrayal of trust, and there’s nothing wrong with people (especially those that invested a lot of time and effort into building the site into what it is today) being upset at reddit for this.

                  I agree with you.

                  I had been using Reddit for a long time, so I understand.

                  I don’t think the blackout was productive: it was never going to change their minds, they just didn’t want to have give moderators the boot in the end.

              • BradleyUffner@lemmy.world
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                Why give moderators the ability to close a subreddit if they didn’t want them to be able to close a subreddit? Using a tool that was explicitly given to you isn’t isn’t “hijacking”.

              • NeoNachtwaechter@lemmy.world
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                Reddit owns the servers which host the subreddits.

                And reddit has allowed their users to create subs and become mods. Now they are taking this away.

                Preventing users from accessing your subreddit

                You may want to consider that these mods’ actions are mostly what their users wanted (there have been polls and votes etc), so what they are doing now, is…

                trying to control the website’s overall behavior.

                … is not very different from creating the sub in the first place.

                So, yes, it is a high jacking attempt.

                Don’t confuse things. The Reddit company is the hijacker.