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Advocating for the defeat of Hamas is ‘calling for genocide’?

lmao

So it’s not an Elbit Systems factory, it’s a separate French-owned company which owner company has a separate contract with Elbit Systems, and the article doesn’t actually say what this particular factory produces, who it sells to, or what the financial value of it is.

Great. Really cleared that up.

How much of the UK’s annual total of £18.2m in arms exports to Israel comes from this factory?

Taking his day job seriously, I see

No. I want the IDF to be given the weapons to finish off Hamas. The Palestinians have no future while Hamas rules in Gaza, and the IDF are the only military force in the world with both the capacity and motivation to destroy Hamas - it certainly won’t come from Palestinians themselves. Israel can’t plausibly be expected to allow Gaza or the West Bank to become a state if that means Hamas coming to power.

What weapons?

I don’t agree with their methods or their objectives, so I don’t see anything to praise here as ‘brave’.

Tends to happen when you knowingly break the law

You realise that cartoon came from a far-right Neo-Nazi forum, right?

And you realise what that does to this conversation?

No, I mean comparing the State of Israel to the Nazis.

The World Jewish Congress link explains why that’s antisemitic. You should read it so you can work on overcoming your own bigotries.

I’ve noticed that this sort of rank antisemitism is pretty commonplace on Lemmy, unfortunately.

https://www.worldjewishcongress.org/en/news/antisemitism-defined-why-drawing-comparisons-of-contemporary-israeli-policy-to-the-nazis-is-antisemitic

No, they’re a hostile power collaborating with our enemies including Russia and China. The drones used by Russia are purchased from Iran. They are intent on a campaign of genocide against our allies in Israel and have become a destabilising force across the wider Middle East, causing Lebanon and Yemen to become failed states.

This juvenile self-loathing anti-Westernism is honestly so boring at this point.

The Islamic Regime in Tehran should be toppled at the earliest possible opportunity.

They are enemies of Britain and we do not support them in anything.

The Regime in Tehran should be undermined, opposed, attacked wherever possible.

I get reliably more accurate search results with Brave Search tbh. It has a neat little AI summariser tool you can disable, an option to pay $3 a month to go ad-free, it’s privacy-centric, clean design, browser-agnostic. Also, it uses its own indexer/web crawler, it doesn’t just piggyback on Bing like DuckDuckGo does.

The only time I end up using Google is if I’m looking into a very recent event, like a thing happening in the world that took place in the last 12-24 hours or so. Google seems to index news articles quicker than Brave.

Except these lot don’t care about the housing crisis, they’re literally looking for an excuse to smash things up

I don’t think that’s true in many cases. You can literally just go on YouTube and look at the Sky News, Channel 4 and ITV reportage where they interview people at these protests/riots and many of them explicitly say that the reason they’re there is because of the crisis in housing, the NHS, etc. and which they pin on the scale of immigration.

I’m not agreeing with them, but when you say they’re just looking for an excuse to smash things up, I think you’re sort of sidelining what they themselves are often saying. Obviously the vast majority are also expressing deplorable racist prejudices too, but again, we should at least take them at their word that that’s why they’re on the streets.

Sure we need societal change too but that alone won’t fix the issue unless these problem causes are dealt with at the root.

I don’t think you can solve this at the root without a) solving the very real problem that we might very well have net immigration of 1 million this year which is fucking insane; b) meaningfully invest in local councils, public services like SureStart (or some new version of it), free English language services, and finding ways to sort of push together communities with new arrivals so that they just have to get to know each other and get along, while the new arrivals revise their opinions and values in line with the new expectations. Even that would really just be a starting point but I’ve had a couple of pint safter work so I don’t want to overstretch myself with ‘grand plans.’

And since dealing with them is much quicker than dealing with large social issues that should be the priority in the next few months.

Agreed. Smash the rioters, lock them up, then I think/hope our new government will be able to take a proper look at this issue that’s been bubbling up for so many years. This violence isn’t isolated, it’s not about social media or Tommy Ten-Names or whoever, and it won’t go away even if we lock up all the rioters. We have problems in this country which require serious, thoughtful, nuanced responess in national policy.

But, again: I want the police to fucking smash these people, slam them up in a prison cell and make them regret their vile, racist, brutal attacks on innocent people.

There are centrists and even conservatives out there in the world who have valid perspectives and values but who are not Trumpers.

Reddit kept the bootlickers and the lazy, Lemmy gained the anti-greed political left

sigh…

I miss some of the more casual subreddits, and somehow Lemmy is even more of an echo chamber than Reddit is, but otherwise yeah, Lemmy is fine. Especially with the Photon frontend.

Thanks, I hate it