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1 day agoLike the right keeps doing with memes!
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It becomes a pretty major issue when it’s one of the main sources of information for people though…
“The number of characters is limited based on old SMS standard! Lulz!”
Yeah, good way to have meaningful conversations where you can bring convincing arguments! /S
I like my car safe, but dumb as rocks otherwise.
I always find that funny. I got my first car with radars and auto adjusting cruise control and so on and it’s much safer than the 2 years older Jetta I was driving before. If I’m distracted it warns me if there’s something on the road, it warns me if I act tired (swaying and going over the lines), if cruise is on it automatically slows down if the car in front of me slows down without braking…
You’re like people complaining about ABS in the motorcycle world even though it brakes faster than the majority of riders in conditions where it turns on…
One costs a lot more to drive than the other though and the gas station vs charging station argument only matters if you travel more than the range of your car, with their models letting you drive pretty far and back without charging, it’s not hard to go over the annual average without ever needing to charge somewhere that isn’t home. Hell, any EV that does 100 miles on a charge can easily beat it without relying on charging stations as the average is 33 minutes a day!
That’s an assumption I wouldn’t be ready to make, but maybe.
Bravo, you’re the first person to bring actual fucking statistics to the discussion! Per driven miles would be better than per driver but hey, at least it’s not just a clickbait article.
A human might have still hit the deer, but he would have at least applied brakes.
You’re making quite the assumption there.
I’m not saying we need to settle, I’m saying it’s useless to share that example if we don’t have actual numbers to compare the stats between human driven miles and miles in cars with assistance available and insurance companies would have that.
Nope and I’ll be the first to say that Musk is a fucking moron, but there’s tons of shit to attack him on, pretending that Tesla cars are more deadly than human driven cars with anecdotal evidence is just stupid.
No, I’m saying that one video of a Tesla hitting a deer doesn’t prove that they’re less safe or just as likely as human to hit things when using assisted driving.
Show actual stats of accidents per miles driven compared to cars without assisted driving and then we’ll be able to talk.
If we had videos of every Toyotas or Hyundai or Ford that hit deers while being driven by a human, this video of a Tesla doing it would just be a drop in a pool of water, but because it happened with an assistant behind the wheel people are acting like it means assisted driving doesn’t make cars safer.
TL;DR: It’s an anecdote, without actual stats it’s just noise to influence people’s opinion
People drive drunk, people drive while checking their phone, people panic and freeze, deers often just jump in front of you from out of nowhere.
People hit fucking humans without braking because they’re not paying attention to what the fuck they’re doing!
But for some reason if it’s a car with assistance well now that’s scandalous! No idea if they’re safer in general and cause less accidents, one is too many! Unless it’s a human behind the wheel then who gives a fuck how many accidents they cause?
Because it’s not, it’s a car with assisted driving, like all cars you can drive at the moment and with which, surprise surprise, you are held responsible if there’s an accident while it’s in assisted mode.
As long as there’s manual controls the driver is responsible as they’re supposed to be ready to take over
People are acting like drivers don’t hit deers at full speed while they’re in control of the car. Unless we get numbers comparing self driving vs human driven cars then this is just a non story with the only goal being discrediting Musk when there’s so many other shit that can be used to discredit him.
To quote OP “How many kids will we let Elon kill before we shut him down?”, by this logic, how many kids will we let drivers kill before we take all cars off the road then?
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That’s one example, do you seriously believe there are no cases of human drivers not slowing down before hitting something because they’re busy checking their phone or they’re DUI?
How does that compare to the number of deer/miles traveled of “regular” cars? That’s the important part.
If you live in deer country you know how often you see dead ones on the side of the road, it’s just scandalous because it was a car on autopilot, but if it’s still safer per miles traveled than having humans behind the wheel then it’s still a win.
They’re suing in French court.