Bay Area innovator stops shoplifting, gives shoppers power to open padlocked shelves::New technology coming to stores could stop theft and ease customer access.

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    1 year ago

    They fixed a problem that wasn’t real, with a solution that has nasty side effects for personal privacy.

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        It’s as much of a problem as cyanide in apples. Sure, it’s technically there, but it’s not really a huge concern.

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          I would rate it as a concern. Probably not “HUGE” concern but it is impacting thing.

          I work loss prevention, so I have a slight bias. But I also see how often and to the volume that it is. There are individuals I have helped with that are linked to 6 digit worth of stuff (and then of course money theft but that’s a different ball game).

          Yes if a company has 30,000,000 in sales, theft seems less a problem until it gets multipld out hundreds of times a 1,500,000 of saleable items being stolen can and is something that happens with the current security stuff. And while that is 1/20 the of the sales that 30 mill is before paying for the product, utilities and salary.

          Profit is still there but it is getting harder to hold that profit and new ways to loose/new scams pop up all the time

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              More then Likely the overall average is hitting that. not really going to argue that. I have been at and looked at metrics for individual stores that have been 4.2,4.5, and one that was a 6% (their was a bit of restructuring that happened after that). I will state that those percentages were lost item numbers that could be accounted with other things other then theft.

              The store thats in a “nicer” area and the one that has is in a really bad 1 can even out so the number is low. but the bad store can have really high numbers, numbers that can be worse as it goes through. Also keep in mind that the overall theft % has stayed “constant” by the link you gave, and thats with the annoying glass cases and other such being used to try to lower shrink. better measures are needed as time passes. A case an area cost 6k to order for the area I was in, and the store chose to put it there. or the ones that are paying for off duty officers to help. If they didnt work the stores wouldnt use them (and yes that does happen, a security set for a store got canceled because the numbers didnt change after 5 months)

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                I appreciate the in depth and personal knowledge, it does add some perspective and nuance. I rarely agree with large corporation’s decisions (on principle alone haha) but I do understand why they do stuff like this

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      In the first half of 2023, shoplifting reports were 16% higher than the first half of 2019. New York City saw a 44% increase in shoplifting complaints between 2021 and 2022. New York and Los Angeles saw the largest increases in shoplifting from 2019 to 2023, with more than 60% increases.

      lol ok

      you think they are just locking stuff up for fun?

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        Why are they only reporting numbers from the pandemic? This is like my local paper talking about how “traffic deaths have shot up since 2020” while omitting the fact that nobody was driving around in 2020. You’re telling me shoplifting is up when compared to a time where most people weren’t going out in public, let alone shopping at retail stores?

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        Wow, those percentages are large numbers. Except a 50% increase starting at .01 crimes a day ends up being only .015 crimes a day. So maybe some additional context can be helpful to know if the problem is rampant or just a tiny problem in some cities becoming a slightly bigger tiny problem.

        https://www.cnn.com/2023/10/27/business/crime-spree-retailers-are-actually-overstating-the-extent-of-theft-report-says/index.html

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        1 year ago

        Did you forget to source that quote, or did somebody shoplift the link out of your post?

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            Except I wasn’t pretending to quote somebody. Not only is your quote unsourced, it’s also not a quote… It’s a paraphrase.

            First, you left out the subtitle for the report, which also summarizes it:

            New CCJ analysis of 24 cities shows a mixed picture, with trends driven by large numbers in New York City

            The fact that New York City was an outlier that affected the rest of the results is important. Especially when the results are so varied:

            Among the cities, New York (+64%) and Los Angeles (+61%) recorded the biggest growth in reported shoplifting from mid-year 2019 to mid-year 2023. St. Petersburg (-78%) and St. Paul (-65%) had the largest decreases.

            You shouldn’t have assumed anything based on this, but don’t take my word for it, I’ll quote the report:

            “Far better data from law enforcement and the retail industry data is needed to help strengthen our grasp of shoplifting trends. For now, it’s unclear if the increase is a result of increased shoplifting, increased reporting from businesses to police, or a combination of both.”