The Grace Hopper Celebration is meant to unite women in tech. This year droves of men came looking for jobs.

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    1 year ago

    Glad to see federal anti-discrimination law working to prevent these conference organizers from being as sexist as they wanted to be.

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      1 year ago

      If companies were looking for applicants there, it is clear discrimination.

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        1 year ago

        Companies are definitely looking for applicants there, so it would definitely be discriminatory to ban men from it. That’s why it would be illegal to ban men:

        “The nonprofit says it believes allyship from men is important and noted it cannot ban men from attending due to federal nondiscrimination protections in the US.”

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          1 year ago

          People don’t like hearing about it but I worked at one of the major sponsor of a past conference and my employer openly admitted that they wanted to increase the % of women in the company. I think that is gender discrimination but i also want more women at work so i am not personally against that.

          • 【J】【u】【s】【t】【Z】@lemmy.world
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            1 year ago

            The kind of discrimination that is a problem is unjust or prejudicial. Diversifying personnel is neither unjust nor prejudicial.

            Rather, this is the good kind of discrimination, where we respect the differences between people.

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              I tried to keep my comment as objective as possible since I was aware that people would not like to hear it. So I made no judgement on wether it’s good or bad and actually shared how it’s a positive thing for me personally.

              when you divert your focus to a specific subset of candidates you have stopped prioritizing the best candidate. therefore that candidate has been discriminated against for not having the specific traits you wanted to prioritize. from a moral perspective it seems that we are passing on chances of getting the best candidates. so this is good for my own feelings, but can’t be good for the employer.

              Honestly. if I felt i was not good enough to overcome the gender discrimination I would have no qualms identifying as a woman to get the job.

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                1 year ago

                Too often internal biases make men look like the “best candidate,” even if a man and woman of equal skills are presented.

                And the reason people don’t like your “positive” reason for wanting more women in the office is because the way you worded it made you sound like a creep who just wants more women around to ogle at, rather than seeing them as equal.

              • 【J】【u】【s】【t】【Z】@lemmy.world
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                1 year ago

                The best candidate? Based on what? Tell us more of thos egalitarian utopia where everything is based on measurements.

                How do you objectively measure the value of an employee’s culture or heritage and the effect of those things on their views and habits, and on their productivity? A workforce with diverse backgrounds is valuable in itself, in so many ways, for everyone.