With the number of people concerned about privacy, it is a wonder why chrome is even popular.

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          I’m conviced those people aren’t real and everyone is in fact secretly using an ad blocker.

          I mean, how do you not get annoyed with so much ads? People are probabaly lying in surveys to trick youtube to not blocking adblockers.

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            You are mostly right. Think about how many people use chrome on corporate office computers that they do not have permission to install anything on or modify. It’s part of the reason Windows is so dominant. Businesses run windows and chrome a shit ton. I work for a Fortune 100 company. It’s Windows and Chrome across the whole company.

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              I work for a large company and its the same. They even force-install Chrome despite Edge already being there! Yes, some people will make the privacy argument that Microsoft takes your data, but so will Google, and it’s not as if the business cared either way, because if they did they’d install an adblocker or Firefox, which they don’t.

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                Yeah the second anything gets stuck into a USB port, IT is on WebEx like “Get what’s that asshole in pod H-12 doing???”

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            Hate to say it, but I think you’re giving the average person way too much credit. Most people are just not that smart.

            “Think of how stupid the average person is, and then realize that half of them are stupider than that.” - George Carlin

            Average and below internet users are not the kind of people you meet on Lemmy. They are people like the aging Gen-Xer who doesn’t know the difference between “the internet” and a web browser, or the kid whose parents shoved a tablet in their face to get them to be quiet for an hour.

            Most people want computers to be an appliance like a washing machine - the thought that they can shape their own experience on their phone or computer never even occurs to them.

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          I suspect they spend most of their time in apps and not surfing the internet. Just a guess really since I saw the mobile traffic exceeded desktop. A lot of people don’t spend hours on the “internet” surfing. Tic Tok sure. Hell I’m getting more and more like that. Even when I use chrome I still only go the the same sites for the most part. lol

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          I forget that these people exist sometimes. I can’t ever go back to the internet with no ad blockers.

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          It could be a good thing. Maybe they won’t bother about people blocking ads because they become even less than before.

          So maybe you need to pause the ad block a lot less.

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        They won’t. The vast majority aren’t using any kind of ad-blockers in the first place or Google would go out of business.

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        The plan to deprecate Chrome V2 extensions has been constantly postponed again and again for years now. There is NO SCHEDULED DATE for this to happen currently, and when it is announced it will be more than 6 months out.

        Source: https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/g/chromium-extensions/c/zQ77HkGmK9E/m/HjaaCIG-BQAJ?pli=1

        If Google really wanted to kill ad blockers, they would have done this years ago.

        They don’t. They want to force ad blockers and other similar extensions to use more efficient APIs that don’t slow down the web. Extension developers overall (not just ad blockers) aren’t happy with the changes, so they’re still working on the APIs.

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      Hmmm, on the bright side, with lemmy going mainstream maybe some of this culture (including privacy and FOSS) becomes more and more openly discussed.

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        As much as I love Lemmy I don’t see it going mainstream :/
        It’s too weird for the general user

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          Reddit was too weird for most people until they ended up being in their Google search results for most topics. It will take a while but the Fediverse will eventually reach a level of popularity and mainstream utility.

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          Yeah I agree. Arguably reddit isn’t even mainstream, and it is exponentially larger than Lemmy now and will remain so for the foreseeable future.

          I’m really loving Lemmy, but it is not even remotely a factor if we are having a conversation about things that are mainstream enough to reflect popular opinion.

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      In adittion to this make sure to disable the telemetry that’s on by default. If you want even better protection from fingerprinting etc, use arkenfox/librewolf (librewolf being preconfigured fork of firefox)

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    Firefox is a weird buggy mess that constantly freezes.

    This is definitely not normal, Firefox never freezes for me. May be worth checking that out, especially your extensions.

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      Especially your security programs, like third-party antivirus or firewalls. They can install system-level plugins in your browsers, and sometimes those don’t work well. Windows defender and the built in firewall are good enough and play nice with other programs.

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    The whole Reddit debacle has really made me rethink all my services. I recently installed duck duck go and still getting used to it, so not quite sure if I’m ready to make another drastic change.

    I used to love Firefox in 2006 or so, but got Chrome when it was released and forgot about Firefox. I think I’ll open a tab in my chrome browser for the Firefox page now…this is how I remind myself to delve deeper into stuff later. Thanks for the inspiration, everyone. Google has irked me ever since removing the Don’t Be Evil mantra.

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      Firefox has a super simple way to import everything from your Chrome install. And from what I can tell it has every feature plus more. Was very easy for me to switch. I was actually inspired to try it as my daily driver since Chrome hogs an uncomfortable amount of RAM on my laptop

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      Reddit being enshittified is what motivated me to switch back to Android. I don’t want to continue using a a locked ecosystem only for apple to one day say: “Welp, no more adblocks 😜 Oh you use VLC? Dude that’s for pirates only. Signal? That’s for terrorists. Standard Notes? What evil plans are you hiding? Banned Banned and Banned.”

      I used iPhones because everyone else was using them so I kinds fell for the peer pressure thinking “Hmm… what are the odds that Apple become evil? Probably don’t have to worry about it.” The Reddit shitshow just triggered a fear in me that made me rethink about my life decisions. Apple’s locked ecosystem suddenly looked terrifying to me, and I just wanna nope out. So I got an Android phone and gave the iPhone to someone. I love my apks and don’t need to worry about Google-Play shennanigans.

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    Windows 11 requires TPM 2.0 to be enabled. With this, Microsoft and Chrome have built a complete end to end DRM to the BIOS and hardware level.

    This gives the end users nothing but is wonderful for Hollywood.

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      At work I guess you only do work related stuff, so at the end of the day it’s only work-related data that the browser has access to. Why would it matter to you?

      99.9% of my the personal browsing I do is in firefox both on phone and desktop, but on work laptop I use Edge because 1. the work web-apps seem to favour chromium based browsers and 2. it’s not my data so I don’t really care about the privacy of my company’s data, they have a data privacy officer to worry about that.

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      Dark reader - for dark mode everywhere

      Decentreyes - for avoiding CDNs that track you

      Sponsorblock - to skip sponsored parts on youtube

      Enhancer for youtube - for a nicer overall experience, specific quality setting by default, scroll wheel volume, and more

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    IMO the thing is that people don’t care about their privacy. Sure, some people around here do, but your average person owns an Alexa, has a FB/Instagram account and constantly posts their location, uses the same password on many sites, uses TikTok, doesn’t block cookies, etc etc etc.

    Most people don’t actually care. Some claim they do, but then can’t even be bothered to stop using Instagram etc because of the “inconvenience”… So do they really care?

    Some companies (Apple, etc) push their products under a narrative around safety and security, and people will repeat that point as a way to justify a decision they already made, but if they actually cared, they would be doing other things too. But they don’t.

    The number of us who do actually care about privacy and security is actually very small.

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    With the number of people concerned about privacy, it is a wonder how privacy is still a word in the dictionary

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    There’s no reason you should be using Chrome. Using Chrome:

    • Means you consent to spyware (along with everyone else you interact with)
    • Allows Google to continue dictating web standards
    • Is a resource hog

    If you haven’t already, I highly recommend reading this comic about the dangers of Chrome: https://contrachrome.com/

    If you need to absolutely use a Chromium-based browser, at least use Brave (just for that site).

    Not-so-fun fact from the comic Contra Chrome: Google Chrome’s URL bar is called the “omnibox.” The name is derived from the Latin word “omnis,” meaning “everything.”

    When you type into the omnibox, it’s sent to Google’s servers and added to your profile forever.

    Even if you deleted it or didn’t hit enter.

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      Or use Chromium. It’s an open source version of chrome. Chromium does not include user tracking and you avoid all the google telemetry bullshit

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        Outta the box, I’m taking Brave over Chromium. Brave is lighter, has content blockers, and has other privacy features enabled by default.

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      Some websites just don’t work in Firefox, though. This is more of a fault of the devs, they’ve made websites that were only tested in and only work in Chromium, but it’s the nature of things occassionally.

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        Lot of those sites work just fine if I change the useragent to chrome for some reason

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    With the number of people concerned about privacy, it is a wonder why chrome is even popular.

    It’s no wonder. It’s because people aren’t actually concerned about privacy.

    If you ask someone if they’re “concerned about privacy” many people will of course say yes. If you follow up that question with “what are you willing to do about it”, you’ll find that the answer is a resounding “not a God damn thing”. If they were they would spend 3 minutes on Google looking for an alternative browser that works even better than Chrome but without the privacy invasions.

    A browser is the low-hanging fruit on the “do-you-care-about-privacy meter”. It’s the one step with no sacrifices and the highest increase in privacy.

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    I recently did the switch, pretty similar in terms of experience. Only thing I can point out about firefox is that chrome’s page translator is faster and more efficient. I’m using the Google translate extension, if someone knows off a better one.