Like, yes I’m well aware that I remain biologically male despite transitioning
If you take hrt ypur body is estrogen dominated, just like “biological” women’s. So where is the difference. Not antagonizing, genuinely curious what you think.
There are many changes HRT doesn’t make. Chromosomes, gametes, bone structure, etc. Hormones are a small part of a complicated picture. Like I said, and the other commenter elaborated on, sex is not exactly a straightforward thing to define or to say “you are this or that”… But there are features that I have which relate to what we consider a sex, and they won’t change.
Yeah I thought about those features too. Chromosomes are an indicator of sex at best, definitely not a sure sign. Gamete producing tissue can be removed, yet the now gamete-less body would still be, e.g. biologically female, right?
Even bone structure can be changed with FFS and not all afabs have the same bone structure anyways.
The more I think about it, the more I think that “biological sex” is just a red herring.
I really appreciate this like of argument, and I don’t exactly diaagree, but at the same time I think you are falling into the same trap as the “simple biology” anti-trans crowd do, and looking for any one thing that defines sex. Sex is a complex collection of features which tend to co-occur. Your primary and secondary sex characteristics are all a part of what defines your sex. I’m not an expert here - the things I’ve listed are fairly basic in terms of what can/can’t be changed.
But there are many aspects that won’t change with transition - there is no treatment that will magically make me a cis woman, I will always be trans. I will always need to make new doctors aware that I am - because there are factors affecting some medications that mean I should be prescribed as a male for example.
I think the important thing for us trans people is not to focus too much on the biology. The important part imo is that it shouldn’t matter what your biology is - your gender identity is what makes you a man/woman. I’m wary of brain structure/chemistry “justifications” of trans identities for similar reasons. I’m sure there is truth there, don’t get me wrong! But I worry about over-medicalising trans identities in general, or even a diagnostic criteria which not all trans people meet…
If you take hrt ypur body is estrogen dominated, just like “biological” women’s. So where is the difference. Not antagonizing, genuinely curious what you think.
There are many changes HRT doesn’t make. Chromosomes, gametes, bone structure, etc. Hormones are a small part of a complicated picture. Like I said, and the other commenter elaborated on, sex is not exactly a straightforward thing to define or to say “you are this or that”… But there are features that I have which relate to what we consider a sex, and they won’t change.
Yeah I thought about those features too. Chromosomes are an indicator of sex at best, definitely not a sure sign. Gamete producing tissue can be removed, yet the now gamete-less body would still be, e.g. biologically female, right?
Even bone structure can be changed with FFS and not all afabs have the same bone structure anyways.
The more I think about it, the more I think that “biological sex” is just a red herring.
I really appreciate this like of argument, and I don’t exactly diaagree, but at the same time I think you are falling into the same trap as the “simple biology” anti-trans crowd do, and looking for any one thing that defines sex. Sex is a complex collection of features which tend to co-occur. Your primary and secondary sex characteristics are all a part of what defines your sex. I’m not an expert here - the things I’ve listed are fairly basic in terms of what can/can’t be changed.
But there are many aspects that won’t change with transition - there is no treatment that will magically make me a cis woman, I will always be trans. I will always need to make new doctors aware that I am - because there are factors affecting some medications that mean I should be prescribed as a male for example.
I think the important thing for us trans people is not to focus too much on the biology. The important part imo is that it shouldn’t matter what your biology is - your gender identity is what makes you a man/woman. I’m wary of brain structure/chemistry “justifications” of trans identities for similar reasons. I’m sure there is truth there, don’t get me wrong! But I worry about over-medicalising trans identities in general, or even a diagnostic criteria which not all trans people meet…